She tells her kids, sometimes, how her mom treated her when she was a kid.

The times when she hit her. The insults she threw at her, how she called her stupid and worthless so often. How she kept her under her thumb, wouldn’t let her go to college unless it was a college she chose in a program she determined. How relieved she felt when she finally left, but how much her mother’s words and actions haunted her.

She Facetimes her mother every once in a while. Sometimes she’ll bring up the stuff that happened when she was a kid, and how much it hurt her.

Her mother questions how much of that ever really happened.